00:30:09	Craig McGee:	My favorite article was about Haier…and I agree Jeanna, I like seeing the cycles they went through
00:35:32	Craig McGee:	Catherine…..I think there is a bifurcation of the Chinese cultures.  Those companies that are “state-owned”, I find still very hierarchical and traditional, while the “private” and multi-nationals have a much more “adaptive”/“agile” culture.
00:37:28	Andrew Williams:	I also wonder if it is easier for people and organizations to change when their point of reference (the Chinese environment in general) is moving so fast. Maybe they don't even realize how fast they are moving
00:38:43	Jeroen VanBree:	Here’s the article in this month’s HBR about HR going agile: https://hbr.org/2018/03/the-new-rules-of-talent-management#hr-goes-agile
00:38:50	Craig McGee:	Good point Andrew….
00:39:04	Catherine Geoffroy:	Thanks Jeroen for the reference 
00:44:32	Jeroen VanBree:	Here’s the link to a more academic case study of Haier (although it is not mentioned by name): https://jorgdesign.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s41469-017-0026-x
00:52:16	Jeanna Kozak:	my perspective on the Design/BS was just that you have to ‘do’ more than ‘talk’ - she didn’t refute the basic steps of design thinking, to start from customer job they want done, etc.
00:53:57	lubna:	it was a contrasting yet engaging talk against the classics on design thinking
00:55:30	lubna:	but, we still need the design thinking using a middle path adapting from linear process
00:56:26	Jodie Goulden:	To build on Catherine's question ... I am also interested to learn more about design thinking applied to org design.
00:59:58	Craig McGee:	I think we do utilize DT in our org design processes.  We first start if we’re satisfying our customer and stakeholder needs; then we define criteria focal areas, ideate around design options, and implement and prototype then in a continuous design process
01:02:01	Catherine Geoffroy:	Thanks Craig for insight on DT
01:04:42	Jeanna Kozak:	I second Craig’s answer - my personal analogy is a blueprint, with different views of the same space. You have to go through the steps to get there and it may not be exactly linear but you end up with criteria and a prototype and a plan to iterate
01:09:18	Andrew Williams:	Very good point Craig
01:10:15	Jeanna Kozak:	A nice topic for next calls might be that, shifting mindsets and design
01:12:40	Jodie Goulden:	thanks everyone
01:12:44	Catherine Geoffroy:	I fully agree with Jeanna. Thanks for proposing