10:32:19	 From  Bill Zybach : The Protea also occurs in a very specific eco-system, which I think is also the necessity for effective engagement!
10:39:12	 From  Bill Zybach : I concur with the issue about change in engagement - and with an engagement value - people don’t resist change, they resist being changed.
10:43:30	 From  Bill Zybach : Engagement TIRI - well rooted in nueroscience!
10:46:38	 From  Robert Otrembiak : and people don't usually have "change fatigue," but rather RESISTANCE fatigue

10:47:23	 From  Caskie Lewis-Clapper : And that tees up the concept of the difference between endurance and resilience ... and not getting the two confused. 
10:47:59	 From  Janet du Preez : Bill please give me the name of the person you just referenced.
10:48:21	 From  Robert Otrembiak : Can Janet speak a little more about "Intention" please? 
10:49:34	 From  Bill Zybach : One of the questions is also, is it necessary in all organizations - to have egalitarian engagement.
10:50:20	 From  Iain Shippey : What do you find are some of the best ways to align personal aspirations and company goals?
10:51:21	 From  Petro Janse van vuuren : I am curious about the structural design aspects of engagement - physical environment, work flow, communication media etc. 
10:51:42	 From  Bill Zybach : And if we omit the Spiritual component - then the ego, and ultimately sociopathic behavior, is validated…e.g., nothing matters except share owner profit or quarterly sale/stock value…
10:52:28	 From  jill windelspecht : If engagement changes moment to moment, what is your thought on these large engagement surveys that orgs use that take months to administer and months to get feedback?  Would you say they are going out of style?
10:53:06	 From  jill windelspecht : Petro, great question
10:54:07	 From  Bill Zybach : And Petro’s question focuses/incorporates on all the 5 dimensions of Janet’s  last slide…
10:56:26	 From  Jeanna Kozak : Engagement is perhaps measured in the outcomes not specifically engagement. There is no way anyone will be honest on a survey because it can easily be traced.
10:56:56	 From  Bill Zybach : The survey, plus lean and six sigma, are the wrong tools in Complex systems.  If it is a simple system, maybe, but it frequently gets in the way - and becomes figural, i.eg., the survey rather than engagement.  Surveys tend to be rational tools to get distant line of business owners to justify doing things that they should!
10:57:33	 From  jill windelspecht :  Very interesting topic, really good to hear something 'fresh' about engagement, thank you!
10:57:43	 From  Iain Shippey : Sureys can been seen a conversations starters?
10:58:12	 From  Bill Zybach : Ditto with Jill, nice “fresh” session, thanks Janet and Caskie!
10:59:12	 From  Manjula Ramprasad : thanks janet and caskie for such a insightful session, this was my  first time in this forum
10:59:48	 From  Manjula Ramprasad : thank you all for the superbly thought provoking questions