00:29:32 Janet du Preez: Interestingly, at the university where I study they consider coordination to be more "complex" than collaboration. It is a big tension for me because I see collaboration as deeper than coordination. 00:30:27 Jardena London: @Janet - I would agree that coordination is more complicated, but not more complex. i.e. many steps, vs outcomes are unpredictable. 00:32:51 Paul Tolchinsky: two sides of same coin. You do not have central or decentral without collaboration and coordination of some kind. Keidel model maps the options and choices 00:32:54 Jeanna Kozak: The OTM article indeed nicely summarizes Jay’s book - the opportunity would have been to take the lens of Experience - what do they feel they need to know, do, see etc or Jobs to Be Done 00:33:50 Paul Tolchinsky: Jeanna, or even talking about today's MI, AI virtual world 00:37:19 Paul Tolchinsky: There are a number of good remote working companies, even some started that way, like Centric Consulting with 800 people....love GitLab as one 00:38:15 Jeanna Kozak: For awareness Gitlab onboarding has been considered the gold standard for several years and is always public as they noted 00:38:52 Paul Tolchinsky: Agree Jeanna and also the research on enculturation as the enabler for such work cultures 00:39:09 Craig McGee: Jeanna, I thought the onboarding process was interesting as well!!! 00:41:51 Jodie Goulden: Interesting to think about that there are different elements to hierarchy : information hierarchy, authority hierarchy, task hierarchy, maybe others? 00:42:12 Organization Design Forum: Just a reminder to our newbies . . . you are welcome to chime in if you'd like to add to the conversation (even if you indicated you preferred to observe) 00:42:30 Rahul Lama: Tools like Slack, Confluence, Vanilla etc., are great - but the mindset it creates is one of instantaneous communication.. not necessarily one of deeper conversations which conventional emails provide that space.. so we could be leading to compromising on creating deeper sharing and knowledge creation if we live off on chit chat tools :) 00:44:33 Paul Tolchinsky: Rahul, I think you are right..depth of discussions and interpersonal connections are important...are we missing the deeper you are questioning....great point 00:45:05 Jardena London: @Rahul - I agree. It can lead to fragmentation. Lack of holistic thinking. 00:45:07 Jodie Goulden: Rahul good point. Matching the tool to the task is important ... but I didn't think about the impact on timing - how to work instantaneously vs when deeper reflection is valuable. 00:45:17 Jeanna Kozak: Also lack of context - same problem that social media creates. Can’t know the tone, intention etc. 00:45:37 Jodie Goulden: Tone is by emoji! 00:45:44 Jardena London: :) 00:45:54 Dave Jamieson: Many aspects of what we see are less deep, faster, one to one and lack reflective thinking and group social construction of meaning 00:45:57 Craig McGee: I like it Jodie!!!! 00:48:33 Jardena London: Did anyone long for the article summary? I’m wondering if that’s something we should omit. 00:48:59 Jeanna Kozak: It probably helps the observers 00:49:14 Craig McGee: That’s what I was thinking, Jeanna 00:49:38 Jardena London: True, good point. 00:51:00 Jodie Goulden: I have learnt a lot about working remote from my younger colleagues ... e.g. collaborating async on shared docs & tools. And its very effective. 00:51:58 Janet du Preez: Competitive Benchmarking combines a virtual world aligning multiple stakeholder inputs with real-time big data, a collaborative platform and an iterative, competitive process to create virtual artefacts. The system seeks to enable stakeholders to collaboratively develop problem definitions, vocabulary and key research questions. It accommodates identification of key concerns to be addressed and a wide range of potential and concurrent interventions. One of the challenges of designing decision support systems such as competitive benchmarking is integrating myriad evolving interactions and decentralised development of artefacts. (Ketter et al., 2015: 9). WHAT IS KEY IN THIS SPACE IS THAT DECISION-MAKING IS BASED ON VALUE SYSTEMS AND PERSONAL PERSPECTIVES. 00:55:04 Paul Tolchinsky: My granddaughter taught me something old can be something new....old is new if you have never experienced it. My grandson taught we we all learn and engage differently...he is experiental learner, not visual....internet does not work for him.\ 00:58:48 Mark Raheja: (‘core’ is a term used in holacracy) 00:59:01 Mark Raheja: (Or ‘general circle’) 00:59:05 Jodie Goulden: Jos de Block from Buurtzorg "we don't have a head office - we have a back office" 00:59:22 Paul Tolchinsky: love that too Jodie 00:59:23 Dave Jamieson: Maybe less hierarchy language and more functional related to core elements 00:59:30 Paul Tolchinsky: who supports who and how? 01:02:00 Rahul Lama: Thanks Nuala for the cool facilitation! 01:02:05 Theresa Garcia: Thank you all for the discussion! I've just been contacted to join another call! Have a great week! 01:02:08 Paul Tolchinsky: thank you Nuala 01:02:11 Jardena London: Skate parks! 01:02:17 Mark Raheja: Thanks for the opportunity to observe! 01:02:19 Janet du Preez: It is always so interesting how our perspectives differ. 01:02:21 Dave Jamieson: Thank all fro great conversation 01:02:31 Jardena London: You all are so much fun! 01:02:52 Quint Salas: Thank you all! 01:03:02 Quint Salas: I enjoyed listening in.