00:26:58 Bradley Powell: Depends on which social impact we are looking at! Long term scope is one aspect of planning and evaluation, but so is initial scope and medium term scope. And many programs funded so use monetary metrics such as financial stability or housing focus areas 00:30:03 Bradley Powell: Scale can be a problem, too; Social impact is in spirit here to solve certain problems ignored or exacerbated by the perpetual growth and scaling fallacy we ascribe to within capitalism 00:31:15 Jacquelynn Colavecchio: Reacted to "Scale can be a probl..." with 👍 00:30:48 Kate Dixon: I would argue that there can be pockets of people-centered org design in non-social-impact groups, too. 00:31:05 Bradley Powell: Reacted to I would argue that t... with "❤️" 00:31:09 Mark Robinson: Reacted to "I would argue that t..." with 👍 00:32:18 Bradley Powell: And vice versa, Kate! Rev gen is hyper capitalist within some corporate style non profits in arts & entertainment, for example, and the rub with org change is because their functions are not people centered but the org mission/vision/values/ethos need to be 00:37:31 Bradley Powell: Sounds like an evaluation and accountability problem first. But why did they go to org design first instead of impact evaluation? 00:38:46 Matt Cinelli: Reacted to "But why did they go ..." with 👍 00:38:52 Catarina Moreno: Reacted to "But why did they go ..." with 👍 00:42:24 Ramona Elena Cherciu: Reacted to But why did they go ... with "👍" 00:40:20 Bradley Powell: Yes! That is why I train on collective impact and results-based accountability first. Every funder needs to know how to ensure our investments do what they say they do, when they say they do it. 00:42:20 Bradley Powell: Geographic? Is that the same as Population Level change? 00:45:00 Bradley Powell: Julian, do you have an in-house tool for impact evaluation and accountability? 00:47:19 Ramona Elena Cherciu: Reacted to Julian, do you have ... with "👍" 00:46:47 Catarina Moreno: Let’s also throw in external priorities and politics that affect funding and have nothing to do with performance… 00:47:12 Matt Cinelli: Reacted to "Let’s also throw in ..." with 👍 00:47:27 Jacquelynn Colavecchio: Reacted to "Let’s also throw in ..." with 👍 00:47:28 Ramona Elena Cherciu: Reacted to Let’s also throw in ... with "👍" 00:47:29 Lindsey Fenton: Reacted to "Let’s also throw in ..." with 💯 00:47:36 Bradley Powell: Reacted to Let’s also throw in ... with "👍" 00:47:40 Kevin Anderson: Reacted to "Let’s also throw in ..." with 👍 00:47:56 Bradley Powell: Output or intended outcome? 00:51:08 Bradley Powell: Is a forest hierarchy the same as power dynamics driven people hierarchy? I'm not sure I'm following the analogy 00:54:08 Lindsey Fenton: Replying to "Is a forest hierarch..." pulling very dusty files in my brain from biology I would say there are a lot of similarities. The forest ecosystem is very interconnected where the plants at the top are relying on certain nutrients, functions, etc. of the plants on the bottom and viceversa. When we remove one the ecosystem often begins to break down - similar to an organizational structure 00:55:02 Kristy Simmons: Reacted to "pulling very dusty f..." with 👍 00:55:10 Bradley Powell: Replying to "Is a forest hierarch..." @Lindsey Fenton ok I'm starting to understand how they may be similar, thank you! 00:56:16 Bradley Powell: Replying to "Is a forest hierarch..." I guess the issue for me is, within the context of orgs wanting to flatten ... Humans absolutely can. We have agency, and can survive on other models, so it's the decision making about how we function that is a rub, not that we are interdependent and physically above or below one another 00:57:53 Lindsey Fenton: Replying to "Is a forest hierarch..." I think its just an analogy to show similarities and that hierarchies are naturally occuring, not to say they are the exact thing. 00:58:53 Bradley Powell: Replying to "Is a forest hierarch..." Oh I don't know that it engages meaningfully with the example around decision making, then, for me 00:52:18 Bradley Powell: Julian, can you share more about your background in social impact and how you came to this work? 00:59:13 Jacquelynn Colavecchio: Can you provide an example? What might be a positive form of tension? 00:59:22 Lindsey Fenton: In social impact there are also significant integration needs with organizations outside of the organization which can also use Jay's ladder, but its different than internal and has to be intentional as well 00:59:35 Sunaina Rao: Will these slides be shared? I missed some of the beginning 01:00:45 Julian Chender: The slides will not be shared but the presentation recording will be made available. 01:01:09 Kristy Simmons: Reacted to "The slides will not ..." with 👍 01:01:15 Lindsey Fenton: Kevin 0 in higher education I experience the same. It's very interesting 01:01:32 Bradley Powell: Thank you, Brandon, Julian, and Tanya! Thank you everyone for this conversation! 01:02:01 Jacquelynn Colavecchio: In my org we want to speak to our results, but our mission is so broad that we struggle to align on what those results should be to build backwards in how to get there. 01:02:33 Lindsey Fenton: Reacted to "In my org we want to..." with ❗ 01:03:46 Ibrahim Nasmyth: Thank you, Julian & Brandon, for this thoughtful & provocative presentation. I had the privilege of seeing Julian's talk in Denver; even better to have Brandon at the table. 01:04:54 Kristy Simmons: Thank you, Julian and Brandon, I appreciate the distinctions as I am currently providing 1:1 pro bono coaching to a non-profit director! 01:05:25 Matt Cinelli: How often is the "trust model" employed? Is it tied to scope or budget? 01:05:36 Lindsey Fenton: Reacted to "How often is the "tr..." with ❤️ 01:05:48 Jacquelynn Colavecchio: Can you provide an example of a positive form of tension? 01:10:57 Lindsey Fenton: Replying to "Can you provide an e..."In my practice when asked about a positive form of tension I usually point to tension between HR and Finance. That tension serves a needed purpose and is needed. If that tension isn't there is swings to far towards one of the other and that can create problems. 01:12:02 Brandon Curry: Replying to "Can you provide an e..." Also could be resource allocation. Limited funds have to be decided the best uses… the role of constraining these decisions is a tension role. 01:10:12 Catarina Moreno: This was great, thanks! 01:10:29 Kate Dixon: Great stuff! Thanks so much, Brandon & Julian!! 01:10:33 Mark Robinson: Thanks! Great info and insights 01:12:02 Enid Rivera: Pre-Conference Workshops - I have attended both and HIGHLY recommend!! 01:12:05 Jacquelynn Colavecchio: Thx all! 01:12:13 Ramona Elena Cherciu: Thank you, very interesting to see the same-same, but different aspects between working in the US social impact space and the Romanian social impact forest. :) 01:12:13 Kevin Anderson: Excellent session - provided me with new models and ways to view work with social impact orgs. thanks 01:12:20 Enid Rivera: Thank you Brandon and Julian! 01:12:36 Laura Cardenas: Thank you both for a great session! 01:12:39 Ilene Salzmann: Thank you!!! 01:13:02 Matt Cinelli: Thank you, a very informative program! 01:13:27 Gene Nikutin: Thanks Julian and Brandon!